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	<title>Comments on: Ogg-support 0.4: Media Player</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Tuson</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Tuson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using OGG Support 0.8 on an N800 with OS2008.

I keep all my music on a server that is uPNP compatible (i.e. MediaTomb on Linux). I can successful index these and play on my linux laptop using RythmBox.

With Media Player, I can browse the server but the player doesn&#039;t see any ogg files.

If I use the File Manager then I can also browse the server and now the ogg files are seen. If I double click on an ogg file the Media Player starts up and plays it.

What am I doing wrong and how can I get this to work properly, i.e. Media Player browse and open ogg files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using OGG Support 0.8 on an N800 with OS2008.</p>
<p>I keep all my music on a server that is uPNP compatible (i.e. MediaTomb on Linux). I can successful index these and play on my linux laptop using RythmBox.</p>
<p>With Media Player, I can browse the server but the player doesn&#8217;t see any ogg files.</p>
<p>If I use the File Manager then I can also browse the server and now the ogg files are seen. If I double click on an ogg file the Media Player starts up and plays it.</p>
<p>What am I doing wrong and how can I get this to work properly, i.e. Media Player browse and open ogg files.</p>
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		<title>By: Milford H.</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>Milford H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I play football. I&#039;m not trying to be a professor. The tests don&#039;t seem to make sense to me, measuring your brain on stuff I haven&#039;t been through in school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I play football. I&#8217;m not trying to be a professor. The tests don&#8217;t seem to make sense to me, measuring your brain on stuff I haven&#8217;t been through in school.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this release! I&#039;ve just bought an N810 to replace my 770 and was trying to port the mogg package across and then you released this :) All works as expected, although there&#039;s a noticeable delay in playing a track (~3 seconds) v. a ~1 second delay on 2007HE (using mogg and an addition to /usr/share/libmetalayer/metadata_lib.conf). I know that&#039;s probably not a helpful comparison, but just thought I&#039;d throw it out there.

With the aforementioned 2007HE setup, the mediaplayer in OS2007 detects and sorts my vorbis files correctly (albeit without detecting track length); although I also can&#039;t yet replicate this behaviour using OS2008.

Anyway, thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this release! I&#8217;ve just bought an N810 to replace my 770 and was trying to port the mogg package across and then you released this :) All works as expected, although there&#8217;s a noticeable delay in playing a track (~3 seconds) v. a ~1 second delay on 2007HE (using mogg and an addition to /usr/share/libmetalayer/metadata_lib.conf). I know that&#8217;s probably not a helpful comparison, but just thought I&#8217;d throw it out there.</p>
<p>With the aforementioned 2007HE setup, the mediaplayer in OS2007 detects and sorts my vorbis files correctly (albeit without detecting track length); although I also can&#8217;t yet replicate this behaviour using OS2008.</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: tuomas</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I probably could do something to the first issue, if I would know why restarting device helps. I&#039;ll do more debugging later with a fresh installation of 2008.

About the second issue. I think there&#039;s nothing I can do for that. Just guessing though. I didn&#039;t even try to listen ogg streams over net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I probably could do something to the first issue, if I would know why restarting device helps. I&#8217;ll do more debugging later with a fresh installation of 2008.</p>
<p>About the second issue. I think there&#8217;s nothing I can do for that. Just guessing though. I didn&#8217;t even try to listen ogg streams over net.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Lucina</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-402</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Lucina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this! My main use for this is streaming, since several local radio stations stream in OGG format. I&#039;m pleased to find that OGG streaming works in the built in Media Player now, but with the following caveats:

- I had the same issues as others have described, with Media Player saying &quot;unknown file format&quot;, until I restarted the device.
- When playing OGG streams the Media Player seems to spend an awfully long time buffering (~60s) before it starts playing. This is contrary to e.g. MP3 streams from the same site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this! My main use for this is streaming, since several local radio stations stream in OGG format. I&#8217;m pleased to find that OGG streaming works in the built in Media Player now, but with the following caveats:</p>
<p>- I had the same issues as others have described, with Media Player saying &#8220;unknown file format&#8221;, until I restarted the device.<br />
- When playing OGG streams the Media Player seems to spend an awfully long time buffering (~60s) before it starts playing. This is contrary to e.g. MP3 streams from the same site.</p>
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		<title>By: Timm</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Timm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great news! Real ogg support is the one thing I missed on my n800. It&#039;s getting better all the time, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great news! Real ogg support is the one thing I missed on my n800. It&#8217;s getting better all the time, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: tuomas</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, no *.ogv. I copied the mime types from my /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml and there was only video/x-ogm+ogg for *.ogm.

Make a bug against ogg-support with proper pointers and we&#039;ll see about that in the next release :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, no *.ogv. I copied the mime types from my /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml and there was only video/x-ogm+ogg for *.ogm.</p>
<p>Make a bug against ogg-support with proper pointers and we&#8217;ll see about that in the next release :)</p>
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		<title>By: intangible</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>intangible</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome, does this also setup the mime type for *.ogv files? (ogg videos new suggested extension).

Thanks much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome, does this also setup the mime type for *.ogv files? (ogg videos new suggested extension).</p>
<p>Thanks much!</p>
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		<title>By: tuomas</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The package already provides mp_ui_ogg.desktop. A wild guess about FM&#039;s problems is that the mime file doesn&#039;t provide any mime for *.ogg pattern. Only the magics.

I didn&#039;t find any document for metalayer crawler, but I didn&#039;t try very hard.

The mlc extracts the meta info from MP3s and writes them to /home/user/.meta_storage (an sqlite db which I believe the MP treats as the &quot;Library&quot;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The package already provides mp_ui_ogg.desktop. A wild guess about FM&#8217;s problems is that the mime file doesn&#8217;t provide any mime for *.ogg pattern. Only the magics.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t find any document for metalayer crawler, but I didn&#8217;t try very hard.</p>
<p>The mlc extracts the meta info from MP3s and writes them to /home/user/.meta_storage (an sqlite db which I believe the MP treats as the &#8220;Library&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: John Steele Scott</title>
		<link>http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/12/09/ogg-support-04-media-player/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>John Steele Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 12:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t had a chance to install the new version yet, but about adding filemanager support: I think the way to do it would be to copy /usr/share/applications/hildon/mp_ui.desktop. If your package had a clone of this file called, say, mp_ui_ogg_support.desktop, but with only the new mimetypes; I think this would do the right thing. You can use dh_desktop in your debian/rules to register/deregister the new desktop file.

Is there any documentation about the metalayer crawler? I&#039;ve seen how the file manager uses the thumbnailer to get info about MP3s. Is the metalayer crawler different to this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t had a chance to install the new version yet, but about adding filemanager support: I think the way to do it would be to copy /usr/share/applications/hildon/mp_ui.desktop. If your package had a clone of this file called, say, mp_ui_ogg_support.desktop, but with only the new mimetypes; I think this would do the right thing. You can use dh_desktop in your debian/rules to register/deregister the new desktop file.</p>
<p>Is there any documentation about the metalayer crawler? I&#8217;ve seen how the file manager uses the thumbnailer to get info about MP3s. Is the metalayer crawler different to this?</p>
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