Comments on: New UI for Kilikali http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=new-ui-for-kilikali Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:08:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: tuomas http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-486 tuomas Sat, 23 May 2009 18:13:32 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-486 It should seek at least with left/right arrows. It should seek at least with left/right arrows.

]]> By: Mikma http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-485 Mikma Sat, 23 May 2009 17:59:30 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-485 This application has alot of potential, just wanting to see finger-friendly way of handling playlists :) Lack of seeking in 0.3 is a sad thing, really like the application :I This application has alot of potential, just wanting to see finger-friendly way of handling playlists :)
Lack of seeking in 0.3 is a sad thing, really like the application :I

]]> By: Arx http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-484 Arx Fri, 22 May 2009 17:02:59 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-484 As for me, Kilikali is quite funny and very small program. I like it, especially because I'm out of disk space and multi-megabyte monsters are not for me. As for me, Kilikali is quite funny and very small program. I like it, especially because I’m out of disk space and multi-megabyte monsters are not for me.

]]> By: tuomas http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-464 tuomas Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:55:40 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-464 It took a while but I finally pushed kilikali (and it's dependency libgconf-bridge) to extras-devel. It took a while but I finally pushed kilikali (and it’s dependency libgconf-bridge) to extras-devel.

]]> By: tuomas http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-463 tuomas Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:51:51 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-463 I just haven't got the time to do it. But maybe I could, now that we've got so nice feedback :) I just haven’t got the time to do it. But maybe I could, now that we’ve got so nice feedback :)

]]> By: t3st3r http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-462 t3st3r Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:47:24 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-462 Btw, why this good program still not updated on repositories and on garage? As for me, it is pretty usable and at least could be classified as beta and new UI rocks (uhm, it is a really good idea to update screen shots as well). Btw, why this good program still not updated on repositories and on garage? As for me, it is pretty usable and at least could be classified as beta and new UI rocks (uhm, it is a really good idea to update screen shots as well).

]]> By: tuomas http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-461 tuomas Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:56:15 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-461 1) Yes, we have noticed the same. 2-4) Joni just added the MokoFingerScroll there. If it's too heavy for n8x0 we might need to make it optional. Thanks for the testing and suggestions :) 1) Yes, we have noticed the same.
2-4) Joni just added the MokoFingerScroll there. If it’s too heavy for n8x0 we might need to make it optional.

Thanks for the testing and suggestions :)

]]> By: t3st3r http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-460 t3st3r Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:03:25 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-460 Well, red-pill mode helped ;). Now what I have to say? GUI surely rocks. Simple, functional, and has almost all I need. I'm surely giving 5 out of 5 stars to such UI! And all this in less than 100Kb downloads, no bloated Python required and so on. Imho more than cool. Great example how others should write their programs! And even sound quality problems I had with some oggs seems to be gone. Wow! Now let's admit couple of minor issues (I have to say UI is pretty usable for me though). 1) Volume level slider pretty cool but I still had some small troubles when trying to move it with fingers. Looks like it's handle height too narrow and I often miss slider's handle :(. This causes slider to set sound level to 0% or 100%. After some training I can deal with it but maybe it is better to increase it's handle height a bit? 2) Scrolling. It's cool. But it loads CPU as a hell and due to this fact sometimes when scrolling sound gets interrupted, especially if you'll scroll in full screen mode actively. 3) In full screen mode scrolling seems to be a bit slow and not very responsive. 4) Looks like scrolling sometimes could miss click 5) When you see first time this UI it is not evident that you should click album icon to begin playback. Though some playing with UI quickly reveals what to do, maybe it is a good idea to provide hint like |> ("play") symbol overlayed on albums icons? 6) Small wish is to have ability to go to "next track" and\or "previous track" by hardware button(s). This could be useful if device lies in pocket and I do not like new track at this time :). However this could be a bit challenging since n800 and 810 have different sets of buttons. And one non-UI issue but rather small playback inaccuracy: when player goes between OGG tracks, several seconds of new track could get skipped and playback starts not from very beginning of track. Anyway it's reasonably cool even right *now*. I'm really having fun. Thanks for it! When you'll consider to release it, I definitely should consider donation IMHO since it looks really *impressive* and that's is the only player I seen which I really like to use :-) Well, red-pill mode helped ;).
Now what I have to say? GUI surely rocks. Simple, functional, and has almost all I need. I’m surely giving 5 out of 5 stars to such UI! And all this in less than 100Kb downloads, no bloated Python required and so on. Imho more than cool. Great example how others should write their programs!

And even sound quality problems I had with some oggs seems to be gone. Wow!

Now let’s admit couple of minor issues (I have to say UI is pretty usable for me though).
1) Volume level slider pretty cool but I still had some small troubles when trying to move it with fingers. Looks like it’s handle height too narrow and I often miss slider’s handle :(. This causes slider to set sound level to 0% or 100%. After some training I can deal with it but maybe it is better to increase it’s handle height a bit?

2) Scrolling. It’s cool. But it loads CPU as a hell and due to this fact sometimes when scrolling sound gets interrupted, especially if you’ll scroll in full screen mode actively.

3) In full screen mode scrolling seems to be a bit slow and not very responsive.

4) Looks like scrolling sometimes could miss click

5) When you see first time this UI it is not evident that you should click album icon to begin playback. Though some playing with UI quickly reveals what to do, maybe it is a good idea to provide hint like |> (“play”) symbol overlayed on albums icons?

6) Small wish is to have ability to go to “next track” and\or “previous track” by hardware button(s). This could be useful if device lies in pocket and I do not like new track at this time :). However this could be a bit challenging since n800 and 810 have different sets of buttons.

And one non-UI issue but rather small playback inaccuracy: when player goes between OGG tracks, several seconds of new track could get skipped and playback starts not from very beginning of track.

Anyway it’s reasonably cool even right *now*. I’m really having fun. Thanks for it! When you’ll consider to release it, I definitely should consider donation IMHO since it looks really *impressive* and that’s is the only player I seen which I really like to use :-)

]]> By: tuomas http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-459 tuomas Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:33:34 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-459 If those would be in a repository, then App.Mgr. would install the gconf-bridge as dependency and it wouldn't be a incompatible package. You should be able to install those in the red pill mode or with dpkg: dpkg -i kilikali_0.3_armel.deb libgconf-bridge0_0.1-2_armel.deb If those would be in a repository, then App.Mgr. would install the gconf-bridge as dependency and it wouldn’t be a incompatible package.

You should be able to install those in the red pill mode or with dpkg:

dpkg -i kilikali_0.3_armel.deb libgconf-bridge0_0.1-2_armel.deb

]]> By: t3st3r http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-458 t3st3r Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:18:49 +0000 http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2008/10/05/new-ui-for-kilikali/#comment-458 > Kilikali with new ui to be tested with n8×0 (diablo). Hmm... installation of libgconf-bridge0_0.1-2_armel.deb required to fulfill dependencies of kilikali_0.3_armel.deb but libgconf-bridge0_0.1-2_armel.deb fails to install. Application manager says this is incompatible package. Retrying in red-pill mode... but this is problem anyway. > Kilikali with new ui to be tested with n8×0 (diablo).
Hmm… installation of libgconf-bridge0_0.1-2_armel.deb required to fulfill dependencies of kilikali_0.3_armel.deb but libgconf-bridge0_0.1-2_armel.deb fails to install. Application manager says this is incompatible package.

Retrying in red-pill mode… but this is problem anyway.

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